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Billy Wilders classic film Sunset Boulevard, failed screenwriter
Joe Gillis laments from the grave that Audiences dont
know someone writes a motion picture. They think the actors make
up the words as they go along. Had Gillis possessed a livelier
museas well as a portion of the talent, adaptability and motivation
of Jack Mendelsohnthen he would have been content to have
his success remain underground (as he himself was). Mendelsohn,
a tremendously prolific writer and humorist, has left a mark in
many media. With immediately recognizable creditsincluding
genuine classics such as Mad and the animated Beatles movie Yellow
Submarinethe lack of recognition afforded him remains a significant
historical oversight.
As the one who wrote the words rather than drew the pictures, Mendelsohn
and his creative contributions are often relegated to historical
steerage by fans and historians. His frequent role as independent
contractor surely didnt help, partially explaining why his
credits are often unrecorded; his innovative work is known to a
relatively few insiders. His grasp of the ineffable connection between
comic strips, animation, film and television has served as an important
measure of his peripatetic success, survival and evolution as a
writer. Mastering the nuances of one medium provided him the framework
to adapt to them all. As a virtual cartooning Gulliver, Mendelsohn
has visited many lands since the late 40s, writing for characters
made of pen and ink, paint on celluloid and flesh and blood. Mendelsohn
is a writers writer who made the difficult transitions from
gag cartoons to comic strips to comic books to animated features
and Saturday morning fare to humor magazines to animated television
commercials. These accomplishments alone would be enough for two
careers, but Mendelsohns go on. He became head writer for
top-10 television successes such as Threes Company, The Carol
Burnett Show and Rowan & Martins Laugh-In.
Though this interview deals with Jacks career, it should hardly
be viewed as an epitaph to it. As you read these words, this interview
is likely out of date; now in his midseventies, Jack remains productive,
always staying current with what todays audience finds popular
and funny. Though his career has endured many years, Mendelsohns
humor, limitless energy and fecund imagination are as fresh and
entertaining as tomorrows script for next
seasons hit. John Province

John
Province: During the last 55 years, your career has touched
on virtually all media including writing for Mad and Panic, magazine
gag cartoons, comic books, comic strips, live-action television
and both Saturday morning and theatrical and TV animated films.
When youre approached by fans, what do they want to talk about?
Jack Mendelsohn: What fans? I have no fans! Why do you think
Im clinging to you?
Province: Well, I dont believe that, so lets
just begin with your best-known venture into syndicated comic strips,
Jackys Diary.
Prior to Jacky, how was your career going?
Mendelsohn: My very first job was at Famous Studios-Paramount
as an opaquer, which nowadays would be called ink and paint. We
colored in the cels. At the time, the studio was producing Popeye,
Little Lulu and Superman. They had an apprenticeship program to
train people to become animators. I was there about a year. There
was so much to learn and everyone was so far ahead of me it seemed
a long shot that Id ever make it as an animator, or even as
an in-betweener. So I left to try my hand at magazine gag cartooning.
A fellow could make a lot of money because there were a lot of magazines
in those days, many more than today. The problem was, being a fairly
sophisticated writer, my stuff would only sell to upscale markets
like The New Yorker, Colliers and The Saturday Evening Post.
I would often submit a rough and a magazine would buy my gag but
have someone else do the finished drawing. I was jealous of other
cartoonists who were selling a lot of medium and lower-end material
at $15 to $25 each, because their drawings were better and more
commercial than mine. The magazine cartoonists met on Wednesdays
at various midtown restaurants, because thats the day you
showed your stuff to the editors and your fellow cartoonists. I
remember Dick Cavalli, Jerry Marcus, Frank Ridgeway, Jack Markow,
Sam Cobean, Charles Saxon, Don Tobin, Hilda Terry and Mell Lazarus.
I wanted desperately to be a cartoonist and thought of myself as
one, but I cant honestly say I was all that successful at
it.
Province:
Did you think doing a syndicated comic strip would be an easier
market than magazines?
Mendelsohn: I wanted to do a syndicated comic strip but realized
that the competition was so advanced artistically that I could never
meet those standards. I thought if I could do a comic strip as seen
through the eyes of a child and drawn in that crude style, I could
use my writing to do an endaround, bypassing the skills
I lacked as an artist. I drew up a few pages and made an appointment
to show it to Sylvan Byck, who was then head of comic features at
King Features, and they bought it the very same day. Byck told me
that Jackys Diary was the fastest sale that had ever been made in
the history of the syndicate.
When they bought it, I was surprised because I had only drawn six
sample Sunday pages, so I had to start working immediately to begin
making deadlines. We were only in about 13 papers when it debuted
and it surprised me that they would get behind it with that low
a circulation. But King Features was confident it was going to be
a huge success and launched a very expensive publicity campaign
proclaiming it the first really new comic strip in 20 years!
Province: Did you produce Jackys Diary with kids in mind?
Mendelsohn: I never at any time considered Jacky a childrens
strip. On the contrary, I considered it very adult with the use
of wordplay, puns and satirical observations, somewhat along the
lines of what I did in writing for Panic and Mad. I dont think
the average child would have fully appreciated what I was doing.
For example, Jacky goes to the circus and sees the strongman. You
and I would see a muscular individual testing his strength, but
Jacky sees a man who can make his face turn red by pulling on a
chain but it finally busted, so he couldnt do the trick
any more. Sometimes, if it was an elaborate story, I would
take two weeks to tell it, such as one I did on the history of the
Roman Empire.
Province: Did it take long to keep ahead of the deadline?
Mendelsohn: It may have been a case of work expanding to
fill the time one has to complete it, but between the writing and
drawing and the endless edits I would make, a Sunday page would
take me almost a week to finish. Some of the crosshatching was time
consuming, and the work is actually more detailed and complicated
than it appears. As I looked over my originals recently, I hadnt
realized how many paste-ups I did. Also, my originals are quite
largehuge, as a matter of fact.
Province: Scott Shaw is a great Jackys Diary fan, and he
told me recently that you were his childhood inspiration for becoming
a cartoonist. He recalled, If this guy can get a comic strip,
so can I!
Mendelsohn: [chuckles] Scott told me that same story. We
worked together at both Hanna-Barbera and DIC, where he produced
and directed Camp Candy while I story-edited it.
Province: You kept your Jackys Diary originals?
Mendelsohn: I thought I had them all. Thats why Im
so surprised you have one here for me to autograph. The only one
I remember giving away was as a gift to my former brother-in-law,
so I have no idea how this one got away from me.
Province: It turned up at the International Museum of Cartoon
Art auction, and its the only one Ive ever seen, which
is why I made sure I got it. During its run, you did quite a lot
of promotional work for Jackys Diary, didnt you?
Mendelsohn: I did two theatrical animated shorts, one called
A Leak in the Dike and another based on a Sunday page
telling the story of George Washington; this one was nominated for
an Oscar by the Motion Picture Academy. I also drew some comic books
for Dell that ran for a few issues. I also made up some Jackys Diary
stationery to answer fan mail . . . not that I got to use much of
it.
Province: How long did Jacky last, and what ultimately caused
its cancellation?
Mendelsohn: It started in January 1959 and ran for exactly
three years. It was canceled because ultimately it was too expensive
for the syndicate to continue running. My contract called for me
to get half of the gross income, with the expenses for producing
and distributing the feature to come off of their end.
I should explain that unless youre talking about Prince Valiant
or Tarzan, with hundreds of client papers, syndicates make no money
from features that are exclusively Sunday pages. The profit is in
the dailies. The daily pages were reproduced on a pasteboard matte,
which costs literally pennies. Its cheap to produce and ship.
The Sunday page, on the other hand, involves making metal plates
for printing, shipping them and, in a case like Jackys Diary where
half the client papers were European, youre now talking about
paying a translator to translate it into Norwegian or Yugoslavian,
and flying the metal plates overseas. Ultimately, Jacky became an
expensive hobby King Features could no longer afford. Im still
very proud of Jackys Diary and consider it, along with writing The
Carol Burnett Show, one of the best things Ive ever done.
Province: Would you have been willing to produce a daily
strip?
Mendelsohn: I would have loved to have done a daily. I even
drew up a few samples, but it just didnt work. I needed the
space a Sunday page provided to let the gags develop.
Province: Just out of curiosity, which feature took your
spot on the page?
Mendelsohn: Lee Holleys Ponytail. Lee had an advantage
over me in that it first ran for about a year or so as a daily and
was able to build a readership by the time they launched the Sunday
page.
Province: Youre a second-generation cartooning professional,
your father being a business associate and a family friend of Winsor
McCays. Was Little Nemo the inspiration for Jackys Diary?
Mendelsohn: I dont think so. At least not that Im
aware of.
Province: Could we talk a bit about your fathers relationship
with McCay?
Mendelsohn: He was McCays agent for the animated films,
not the comic strips. McCay had a vaudeville act in which he would
include his animation, using a giant-size Gertie the Dinosaur. I
remember as a child having copies of these films and running them;
wonderful work, and all hand-drawn by McCay on rice paper. Amazing.
At one time our house was filled with his original Little Nemo Sunday
pages and reels of his animated cartoons. Unfortunately, they werent
taken care of and ultimately decomposed. We used to visit his home
in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, and though I was just a child at the
time I remember him as a very nice man, very kind. We also had,
through my fathers association with McCay, a big stack of
originals stored in in our attic, which, unfortunately, fell victim
to a leaking roof and were gradually turned into a pile of priceless
mush. Of course in those days, original art had no value and no
one cared about them. I recently came across a few things of his,
including a single Little Nemo panel among my things. My wife auctioned
it on eBay and it sold for $1,800. Just one panel!
Province: After Jackys Diary, you worked on other King Features
venues such as animated cartoons.
Mendelsohn: Al Brodax, who was a former William Morris agent,
ran the syndicated animation division of King Features. He had recently
sold a series of cartoon shorts based on Krazy Kat, Beetle Bailey
and Snuffy Smith. Brodax was an admirer of Jackys Diary and hired
me to write all 100 of both the Krazy Kat and Beetle Bailey four-minute
shorts. Id never written for animation before but was pretty
sure I could pick it up. I wrote not only the episodes but also
storyboarded them for the animators, which is how I always worked
when I wrote for comic books or animation. That job led to my writing
the Beatles Saturday-morning TV show and eventually to my
writing for Yellow Submarine, the Beatles animated feature.
Province: Id like to talk about Yellow Submarine, but
first lets touch on the Beatles Saturday-morning TV
show, which I remember very well. That show was a very big hit at
the time.
Mendelsohn: They were fun to work on and I enjoyed it. I
did stories in four segments, taking the Beatles all over the world,
and Ive included some of my original pencil layouts for this
interview, where theyre in Transylvania. One of the animators
told me they were easy to follow because they looked like caricatures
of the Beatles and were reminiscent of Milt Gross loose style.
Being a great admirer of Milt Gross, this naturally pleased me very
much. It was a compliment Ive always remembered.
Province: How did King Features, primarily a newspaper syndicate,
manage to latch on to a musical act like the Beatles?
Mendelsohn: In 1964 King signed them for the animated cartoon
series, so they had them locked in early. Producer Brodax somehow
connected with Brian Epstein and the Beatles were eager to do it
at the time because they were an up-and-coming group. No one really
knew they were going to become as big as they eventually would be.
At that time I think everyone may have considered them just another
passing fad. Brodax must really be given the credit for that. Without
him I doubt any of it would have come about. He was very clever
to recognize the potential.
Province: Did the Beatles do their own voices for the Saturday
morning show?
Mendelsohn: No. They had actors doing impressions of them,
just like when they recorded Yellow Submarine.
Province: Why an animated feature-length film after successful
live-action pictures like Help! and A Hard Days Night?
Mendelsohn: The Beatles originally signed a three-picture
deal, but by 1968 they were superstars and couldnt afford
to take a year off to make a movie. They would lose millions in
recording and concert money. They were trying desperately to break
the contract when Al Brodax came up with the idea of a feature-length
animated cartoon in which the Beatles themselves wouldnt have
to do anything. We made the film using actors to do the Beatles
voices and wrote the script around existing songs from their Sgt.
Pepper album. The Beatles gave their blessing but totally disassociated
themselves from the film; they wouldnt discuss it and wanted
nothing to do with it, because they werent in control. But
when they were finished touring and finally saw the finished product,
they were so enthusiastic and they went on doing that little live-action
tag that you see at the end, so they could somehow adopt it as their
own and be connected with it.
Province: So you did not work with the Beatles on actual
production in any way?
Mendelsohn: No, we didnt, although I did meet Ringo
years later and he told me how much he enjoyed Yellow Submarine.
He even gave me an autographed cel, which Im sad to say I
gave away.
Province: You mentioned Milt Gross earlier. What other cartoonists
did you like?
Mendelsohn: I enjoyed Al Capps Lil Abner. Not
because of the art, which was brilliant, as much as the humor and
language. He was a genius at that outrageous type of satire. I actually
wound up working for him briefly in the late 40s after I was
discharged from the Navy. Capp had a small publishing outfit called
Toby Press, and practically all of his relatives worked there. I
was literally the only one who wasnt related to him. Mell
Lazarus was there before me and suggested me for the job when he
left to do his Miss Peach comic strip. Als brother Elliot
ran the office; Als niece was the secretary, a brother-in-law
was in charge of merchandising and his sister ran the PR department.
Another relative functioned as a glorified pimp. He was the one
who arranged for liaisons for Al and various newspaper clients at
an East Side apartment Al kept for just that reason.
Province: What was your personal impression of Capp?
Mendelsohn: He was a larger-than-life figure, very loud and
blustery. You definitely knew when he was in the room.
Province: What was your job at Toby Press?
Mendelsohn: At Toby I edited a small cartoon magazine they
published called The Most. It featured gag cartoons rejected by
all the other magazines that we could buy real cheap$5 each,
maybeand put together in a magazine that sold for 25 cents.
I was sure I was improving most of them by writing new captions
or punching up the gag line. Its a hard habit to break. Even
today when someone tells me a joke, I find myself editing it in
my head as its being told, taking out words and substituting
others.
Province: Jack, youve been a comedy writer for more
than 50 years, and God knows humor changes from decade to decade.
How do you stay current and keep writing for todays taste
and audience?
Mendelsohn: Its important to stay informed about whats
going on around you. The words may be different, but the basic formula
for comedy remains the same. In other words, the elements may change,
but the format doesnt. I think I just coined a metaphor.
Province: Its interesting that youre known as
a writer, but your mental pattern appears to be visual, given the
fact that you storyboard like an animator or cartoonist rather than
writing them out in script form.
Mendelsohn: Ive always thought in terms of pictures
and I always worked that way, whether I was writing comic books
like Rocky and Bullwinkle and Dudley Do-Right for Jay Ward or Beetle
Bailey for Mort Walker.
Province: Can we talk a bit about your Jay Ward days?
Mendelsohn: Oh, yes. He was one of the most wonderful men
and one of the sweetest souls Ive ever met in my life; very
funny, exceptionally generous and entertaining. Jay had a very small
studio, only five or six director/animators. I never worked there;
I worked at home. But payday was Friday, and Id come in to
get my check and hed take us all out for lunch at Frascattis,
wed all get sloshed and somehow never get back to the studio.
There was a big hotel on Sunset Boulevard and on the top was a 40-foot
statue of a showgirl with a spinning globe in her hand. Jays
studio was directly across the street and he put up a 12-foot statue
of Bullwinkle holding a spinning Rocky Squirrel. That was his answer
to the showgirl, and I think its still there to this day.
The studio is now a souvenir shop selling Bullwinkle memorabilia
and is operated by his wife and daughter.
Province: How did you meet Jay?
Mendelsohn: I had been at Hanna-Barbera, where I was working
on a Saturday morning show called The Impossibles, which was basically
the Beatles with super-powers. I was fired suddenly and I was wondering
what the hell I was going to do. I was married, I had a wife and
kid and had just moved to California and didnt know a soul.
When Id heard Jay Ward was beginning a new animated series,
I wrote him and sent over some Dudley Do-Right and Rocky and Bullwinkle
comic books I had written for Dell, along with a note saying I was
available for work. Jay called me and I immediately began writing
the George of the Jungle and Super Chicken Saturday morning animated
cartoons, and I was quickly made head writer. Jay offered me another
series about a race-car drivers, called Tom Slick, which I turned
down. It was just too much work.
I also wrote most of the studios Quisp n Quake and Captain
Crunch animated TV commercials.
Province: You made a comment I cant let pass: Why were
you fired from Hanna-Barbera?
Mendelsohn: Because I wanted a contract. The way the place
worked, when things slowed down they would lay you off until they
needed you again. I mean, if things slowed down for two or three
weeks you were out of a job. This included artists who had been
with Bill and Joe for 20 years. They were sent home to wait by the
phone for the call that they needed you again. While I was there
they laid off a writer, then called him a week or so later. Joe
was very upset to learn the writer had found another job and loudly
complained that hed been betrayed. I was there
with Alex Toth, Mike Maltese, Gene Hazelton, Doug Wildey and scores
of other super-talented people. I kept asking Joe to give me a contract,
but he would constantly put me off about it. After a few months
of my pressuring him, I was abruptly called into the Business Affairs
Office and my deal was terminated. It was explained that
contracts make Mr. Barbera uneasy. I did eventually
return a few years later as creative director of the studio, so
I guess in a way I had the last laugh.
Province: At this point were talking about approximately
1968, and youre on the cusp of your leap from animation to
live-action TV.
Mendelsohn: I was still working for Jay Ward and making about
$600 a week, which was a decent amount of money for the time, but
it began to bother me that I wasnt doing much of anything
other than arriving at the studio on Friday to pick up my check.
It wasnt so much my ethics as it was my drive. I was too ambitious
to just wait for Friday and a check; I could be on unemployment
and get the same thrill. I told Jay I wanted to get into live action,
so he arranged for me to meet his agent. We met and I told him Id
heard of a new summer-replacement show called Laugh-In. I knew this
was something I could do in my sleep as it was pretty much a live-action
comic strip. The agents next-door neighbor was the Laugh-In
producer, George Schlatter, and he arranged a meetingwhich
was a disaster! On the drive in, I broke a tooth on a hero sandwich
and I looked like Alfalfa Switzer, and I was afraid to smile. We
met on the Laugh-In set and the atmosphere was like a three-ring
circus; theyre rehearsing, theyre shooting, literally
every ten seconds someone else is coming up to Schlatter with another
decision to be made. I had reams of comedy material to show him
but couldnt get his attention. Suddenly, something dropped
out of my briefcase, and he picked it up. It was something Id
done for Jay Ward called The Reagan Budget Book, a send-up of Ronald
Reagan who was then governor of California. It was all about him
being so cheap. Schlatter laughed out loud reading it and called
the following day offering me a staff job on Laugh-In.
Province: Which of course became one of the most-watched
shows in TV history. Are you most comfortable with satire?
Mendelsohn: Oh, absolutely. Thats what has always attracted
me and I guess I do it well. Ive always said that for all
the preteen shows Ive written, Im really writing for
myself, and if the kids dont get it, well, thats tough!
If I were writing for preschoolers Id get bored, and it would
be hard to know how to even start entertaining that age level.
Province: You know, it hadnt occurred to me until you
mentioned it that Laugh-In was in fact a live-action comic strip,
and to some extent so was The Carol Burnett Show, The Dick Van Dyke
Show and all the other variety shows youve been involved with.
Mendelsohn: Oh, absolutely. When variety TV died, it was
like a close friend passing away. Sketch comedy is really a cartoon;
very unbelievable and far removed from reality, and because I didnt
want to die along with vaudeville, I moved into writing and story-editing
sitcoms like Threes Company, which are semirealistic as opposed
to the pure surrealism of sketches. There are new rules to learnand
youd better learn them fast!
Province: Lets move back to EC. How did you begin writing
for Panic?
Mendelsohn: As I mentioned, my drawing was never good, but
writing came easy to me. Guys who were excellent cartoonists but
who didnt write well would hire me to write for them. After
a while, I was writing for an entire stable of comic-books artists.
Al Jaffee became aware of my work and brought me to the Mad offices
on Lafayette Street and introduced me to Mads editor, Al Feldstein.
Feldstein started me writing on Panic, and I remember being paid
$10 a page. I started writing it cover to cover with issue #7. I
didnt think anyone knew or even cared about this Mad knockoff
until those hardback collections came out years later with an entire
section about my contribution.
Province: Do you recall any of the stories you wrote for
Panic?
Mendelsohn: I wrote Them There Those, which was
a takeoff of the science-fiction film Them! Also 20 Thousand
Leaks Under the Sea. I did everything: operas, movie satires,
comic strips, TV shows, whatever was current and popular. Irving
Oop was mine, drawn by Will Elder. I wrote Panic Peeks
into Some Old Under Paints. I had read an article about how
they were finding paintings by the Old Masters that had been painted
over so they could reuse the canvas. I thought it would be a funny
springboard for a story. Beau Brummel was mine. I remember
sitting in the theatre watching the movie and taking notes in the
dark. I wrote Charlie Chinless, a takeoff on Charlie
Chan movies, with drawings by Elder. I also wrote the little gags
and signs that were included in each panel. I was inspired by Elder
to do all of those. I cant believe I did that much work for
$10 a page!
Province: Theyre still very funny and almost seem like
a satire within a satire; a secondary goof on themselves. Did you
go back and add those little gags, or were they written in as you
went?
Mendelsohn: They were written in as I went along, and I could
do
pretty much whatever I wanted. There was no direction or guidelines.
I didnt work at the Mad office. I would write at home, come
in and turn in my work, get a check and leave.
Province: Looking at those old Panics and Mads, it occurs
to me that Chuck Jones did two opera cartoons, and as wonderful
as they are, you fellows were doing scads of literary satires, spoofs
on opera, stage plays, films, language and poetry in every single
issue without a fraction of the accolades.
Mendelsohn: Its true. But thats the difference
between film and comic books. We never had the audience a motion
picture could have. You had to be fairly bright to get our stories.
Province: Was Will Elder a favorite artist? Did you write
stories with him in mind?
Mendelsohn: Sometimes yes, and I liked his work very much.
He was a great inspiration to me. I liked Jack Davis and Harvey
Kurtzman as well. Some of the artists had no feel for certain kinds
of materiallike Wally Wood. You had to be very careful what
type of story he was given. It was a delight seeing Will Elder at
the San Diego comic convention a couple of years ago. We sat on
an EC panel together, though I dont think he remembered who
I was.
Province: As the original writer, did you receive any royalties
from the sale of EC art when it was auctioned off years ago?
Mendelsohn: No, I didnt receive anything. As a writer,
there would have been nothing to sell. Unfortunately, as with Yellow
Submarine, Ive received nothing, because the film was animation
and not live action. Had it been live action, I would have received
residuals. Because its a cartoon, its a different union
and not governed by the same rules. Its only recently that
the Writers Guild is making some headway getting animation
writers some points, Social Security, residuals, hospitalization
and all the things they deserve.
Province: Why did you leave Panic?
Mendelsohn: I decided to move to Mexico and would have liked
to continue working from there, but they felt the mail was not reliable
and it wouldnt work. Feldstein begged me not to leave; he
even offered me commission which turned out to be an entire dollarwhich
would have raised me to $11 a page! [chuckles] I continued freelancing
material to Mad, though, the same way I always worked, sketching
out my pages. It wasnt a regular thingbecause I had other
projects, but every once in a while Id send them an idea,
which solidified my status as one of the usual gang of idiots.
Province: Professionally speaking, leaving the country at
the time was a pretty bold move. I know a couple of cartoonists
who lost some comfortable and lucrative long-term jobs with well-established
syndicated strips because they wanted to leave the country.
Mendelsohn: It is amazing, and I did turn down good jobs,
not that writing for Panic was a good job. Joe Oriolo offered me
the chance to direct the Felix the Cat animated series, but I turned
it down because I was dead set on relocating. I just had to get
away for a while.
Province: Do you work best by yourself or are you able to
function in studio setting with a bunch of guys pitching gags at
each other?
Mendelsohn: Ive done both and can function either way.
At Hanna-Barbera I certainly had to work with a group. The variety
shows and sitcoms Ive worked on certainly meant I had to come
in every day and work in an office, and I can tell you, most comedy
writers are very competitive. Its like being in a rugby scrimmage,
with everyone trying to outshout and one-up each other with bigger
and better gags.
Province: Jack, when you live on the edge, like any writer,
artist or actor in that land where youre only as good as your
last sale, are there many lean periods?
Mendelsohn: Oh God, yes! When I came back from Mexico with
my wife and new baby, I was at the very bottom both professionally
and financially. I really had no idea where to turn, and it was
a real blessing that Mell Lazarus asked me to both ghost-write and
draw the Miss Peach comic books. There were periods of absolutely
nothing and eventually I found myself back to writing comic books
for ten bucks a page. So there was a long drought between Jackys
Diary, which ended in 62, and starting to write for Brodax
in 6465. You cant make a living and support
a family doing comic-book pages for $10 a page, so you do everything
you can: gag cartoons, writing advertising copy, animation. Its
like working three or four jobs all the time. You learn not to say
no to anything. I was well into writing successful and well-paying
prime-time TV shows, and Id still come home at night and write
comic books for ten bucks a page. I became head writer of Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles in the 80s, and I was pretty pleased
that an old fart like mea guy in his late sixtieswas
supervising scripts for the biggest, hippest animated series in
the country, one whose audience was mostly eight years old. Im
still working that way, and I can still get pretty excited about
all the things Ive accomplished as I approach the three-quarters
of a century mark. Ive often thought of myself akin to Woody
Allens Zelig. No one knows my name, but Im there in
so many old photographs, alongside so many things that have gone
on to become classics, like Mad or Laugh-In or Yellow Submarine.
Theyll live forever. It was sheer luck that I got involved
with them.
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